Outcome is Welfare

Outcome is Welfare

From Training Without Conflict® | Dog Training Podcast by Training Without Conflict®

December 26, 2025 · 25 min

About this episode

The episode discusses the debate over aversive tools in dog training and examines the evidence surrounding their use.

In this solo podcast, I address the broader argument against aversive tools in dog training promoted by the AVSAB and the R+-only movement.Recently, Dr. Michael Bailey, President of the American Veterinary Medical Association, commented on the use of electronic collars in dog training. That comment triggered backlash and a strong response from Dr. Lisa Radosta, President of the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists.But this presentation is not about personalities.It’s about the claim that aversives never have a place in dog training.Using peer-reviewed research, learning theory, and real-world outcomes, I examine whether the “no aversives ever” position is actually supported by evidence and what happens to dogs when ideology overrides results.At the end, I invite you, the trainers and owners, to share stories of dogs who are alive today because balanced training worked when nothing else did.Outcomes matter.

People in this episode

Host: Training Without Conflict®

Topics covered

  • dog training
  • aversive tools
  • learning theory
  • animal welfare
  • balanced training

Keywords

  • dog training
  • aversive tools
  • electronic collars
  • learning theory
  • animal welfare

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: American Veterinary Medical Association, American College of Veterinary Behaviorists, AVSAB

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