Joe & Rya TAKE FIVE: She Followed the Law. It Almost Put Her In Jail.

Joe & Rya TAKE FIVE: She Followed the Law. It Almost Put Her In Jail.

July 1, 2026 · 5 min · Season 4

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Joe and Rya discuss the implications of a Kansas law regarding gender markers on IDs and the consequences faced by Kris Ripper during a traffic stop.

Kris Ripper changed the gender marker on her license because Kansas law required it. Then a rainy night traffic stop over her headlights turned into a ten minute interrogation and the threat of jail time, all for doing exactly what the state told her to. Joe and Rya trace how a law sold as making IDs accurate for police did the exact opposite the first time it met the real world, and ask the question underneath it: what are these laws actually protecting when obeying them is what puts you in ...

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