
Urban Evolution with Liz Carlen
From treehugger podcast by Michael T Yadrick
November 29, 2025 · 50 min · Episode 58
About this episode
Michael talks with Dr. Elizabeth Carlen about the evolution of wildlife in urban environments shaped by human social structures.
In this episode, Michael talks with evolutionary biologist and urban ecologist Dr. Elizabeth Carlen about how cities - shaped by war, politics, religion, and everything in between - are evolving alongside the wildlife that calls them home. Liz is an urban evolutionary biologist whose research explores how human social structures, from redlining to sacred groves, shape the genetics, behavior, and survival of city-dwelling creatures like squirrels and pigeons. We dive into the often-overlooked ways that social histories leave their mark not just on human communities, but on the DNA of the animals that live among us. From prayer animal releases and colonial land grabs to the silent corridors of segregation - era parks, we trace how the built environment (and the power structures behind it) drive biological change. Together, we explore how urban wildlife, often seen as out-of-place or alien, can actually reveal deep truths about the endurance of life, adaptation, and the stories we tell ourselves about nature in cities. From the sidewalks of New York to the treetops of St. Louis and the birds of Mexico City, this is a rich and fascinating conversation on the entangled evolution of…
People in this episode
Host: Michael T Yadrick
Guest: Dr. Elizabeth Carlen
Topics covered
- urban ecology
- evolutionary biology
- wildlife in cities
- human social structures
- urban wildlife
- adaptation
- social histories
Keywords
- urban evolution
- wildlife
- cities
- evolutionary biology
- urban ecology
- social structures
- adaptation
- squirrels
- pigeons
- DNA
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Nature Cities, The Conversation
Places: New York, St. Louis, Mexico City
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