How Jemma Lilley's Fascination With Serial Killers Turned Deadly

How Jemma Lilley's Fascination With Serial Killers Turned Deadly

From True Crime Conversations by Mamamia Podcasts

March 4, 2026 · 59 min

About this episode

The episode explores Jemma Lilley's deadly obsession with serial killers and her conspiracy with Trudi Lenon to murder an innocent young man.

Some women dream of launching a career before 25. Some dream of owning their first home. Jemma Lilley had a different goal: she wanted to kill someone before her 25th birthday, but she knew she couldn't do it alone.  Obsessed with serial killers and violent fantasy, Lilley set her sights on turning desire into reality. She found an accomplice in Trudi Lenon, an impressionable single mother whom she gradually drew into her world of fixation and planning. Together, they searched for what they chillingly described as the “perfect victim.” They chose 18-year-old Aaron Pajich-Sweetman, a vulnerable teenager who was a friend of Lenon’s son. It is a case that still shocks those who hear it. A real-life horror story about manipulation, obsession, and the calculated, meticulous planning of two women who conspired to take the life of an innocent young man. CREDITS  Guest: Tim Clarke Host: Claire Murphy Senior Producer: Tahli Blackman Group Executive Producer: Ilaria Brophy Audio Engineer: Jacob Round GET IN TOUCH Follow us on Instagram and TikTok  @truecrimeconversations Make sure to leave us a rating and review on Apple & Spotify to let us know how…

People in this episode

Host: Claire Murphy

Guest: Tim Clarke

Topics covered

  • serial killers
  • obsession
  • manipulation
  • crime
  • murder
  • planning

Keywords

  • Jemma Lilley
  • Trudi Lenon
  • Aaron Pajich-Sweetman
  • true crime
  • murder case
  • obsession
  • manipulation

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Organizations: Mamamia Podcasts

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