Why the US Must Engage China on AI Safety Before It’s ‘Game Over’

Why the US Must Engage China on AI Safety Before It’s ‘Game Over’

From Trumponomics by Bloomberg

May 13, 2026 · 35 min

About this episode

Sebastian Mallaby discusses the urgency for the US to engage China on AI safety as the gap in AI capabilities narrows.

Sebastian Mallaby of the Council on Foreign Relations and author of  The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind and the Quest for Superintelligence  joins host Stephanie Flanders. He says Chinese AI is closing the gap—and that means Washington can’t afford to ignore safety talks. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

People in this episode

Host: Stephanie Flanders

Guest: Sebastian Mallaby

Topics covered

  • AI safety
  • US-China relations
  • technology
  • superintelligence
  • policy discussions

Keywords

  • AI
  • China
  • safety talks
  • Sebastian Mallaby
  • superintelligence
  • DeepMind
  • US policy

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Council on Foreign Relations

Books & works: The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind and the Quest for Superintelligence

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