443: Love is Always Wilder Than You Imagine

443: Love is Always Wilder Than You Imagine

April 5, 2026 · 33 min · Episode 443

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This episode explores the nature of love and how it differs from control, emphasizing a wilder and more genuine form of love.

How can we love - people, life, the world - in a way that allows us to genuinely contribute? And how is that different from the kind of love that is really a strategy to have ourselves feel ok? That second kind of love might be better understood as a way that we try to control life or other people - we’ll love just as long as we get back exactly what we hoped for. The first kind of love is wilder and more surprising and, as author Maria Popova says, the great wonder is ‘how it continues to hold as it continues to change’. This week's Turning Towards Life is hosted as always by Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace. Episode Overview 00:00 Introduction to Turning Towards Life Podcast 04:23 Exploring the Source: Maria Popova's Poem 06:17 The Nature of Love and Neediness 12:45 Distinguishing Love from Control 19:41 Loving Kindness as a Disposition 27:47 The Essence of Lovingness 31:31 Reflections on Love in Today's World This is Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to join in the lively conversation on this episode. You can find videos…

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