The Thin Blue Lie: Deputy Chief Fisher

The Thin Blue Lie: Deputy Chief Fisher

July 12, 2026 · 2h 33m · Season 4 · Episode 8

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Lance Fisher discusses his transition from deputy chief to whistleblower, revealing systemic issues in policing.

A retired deputy chief turns whistleblower and suddenly the whole system reacts. Lance Fisher joins us to explain what pushed him from command staff into public accountability work, what he saw in body camera footage and citizen complaints, and why leadership failures at the top can quietly shape everything patrol does at the bottom. We get honest about how departments become top heavy, why patrol gets “decimated,” and how understaffing, growth, and weak budgets can make even basic policing f...

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Host: Sgt. Erik Lavigne

Guest: Lance Fisher

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