Losing the Real War (w/ Dr. Einat Wilf)

About this episode

Dr. Einat Wilf discusses the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the broader implications for Jewish sovereignty.

Dr. Einat Wilf — Israeli writer, podcaster, and now founder of the political party Oz — returns to the pod to tell us a tale of two wars: the physical war fought (and technically won) in Gaza and the global war for Jewish sovereignty (that’s far from over). If you’re a curious layman on this subject, like Vanessa, make sure to revisit our first conversation with Dr. Wilf before listening, to make sure you have the context you need. On the agenda: -The weaponization of Gaza [0:00-15:03] -The “terrible” truth of Palestinian identity and ideology [15:04-22:42] -The “disappearing” border/alliance with Egypt [22:43-29:17] -Starvation in Gaza [29:18-34:36] -Speaking loudly and carrying a small stick [34:37-39:41] -Defining Palestinianism [39:42-46:39] -A tangent on hippies [46:40-49:24] -Netanyahu’s interference in the “real” war [49:25-59:27] -Anti-Zionism and America’s role [59:28-1:14:22] -A ministry of trolling [1:14:23-1:1:16:32] Mentioned in this episode: * The War of Return * Zionism and the Refugee Machine (w/ Dr. Einat Wilf) * Unraveling UNRWA * Anti-Zionism, Explained (w/ Adam Louis Klein) * Hooked on Dead Jews (w/ Dara Horn) Uncertain Things is hosted and produced by Adaam…

People in this episode

Hosts: Vanessa, Adaam James Levin-Areddy

Guest: Dr. Einat Wilf

Topics covered

• Israeli-Palestinian conflict
• Jewish sovereignty
• Gaza
• Palestinian identity
• Zionism
• political commentary

Keywords

• Gaza
• Palestinian identity
• Zionism
• Jewish sovereignty
• political commentary
• Dr. Einat Wilf

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Oz

Books & works: The War of Return, Zionism and the Refugee Machine, Unraveling UNRWA, Anti-Zionism, Explained, Hooked on Dead Jews

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