The Chess Queen Who Wants Women to Stop Waiting for the Perfect Move

The Chess Queen Who Wants Women to Stop Waiting for the Perfect Move

April 2, 2026 · 47 min

About this episode

Jen Shahade discusses how to navigate life's uncertainties using lessons from chess.

How do you make a move when you have no idea what comes next? Jen Shahade has spent her life inside the world of chess as a two-time U.S. women’s chess champion and the author of many books about chess including her latest Thinking Sideways, a book that uses chess as a way to think better, live better, and stop pretending we can plan ten moves ahead in a world that changes nineteen times a day. Get Jen's book here! Join our newsletter community here. ORDER The Parisian Heist here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Host: Jo Piazza

Guest: Jen Shahade

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