Gordon Brown on Nationalist Populism, Israel and Hope

Gordon Brown on Nationalist Populism, Israel and Hope

September 1, 2026 · 37 min · Episode 321

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Gordon Brown discusses the impact of nationalist populism, the nature of hope, and his experiences with Middle East peace negotiations.

The former UK Prime Minister and Chancellor joins Yonit and Jonathan for the latest of our Unholy Conversations — on the void populist nationalists have moved into, on the difference between hope and optimism, on the father whose projector slides taught him the kings of Israel before the kings of England, and on the Middle East peace deal he watched come apart in 2009. The former Prime Minister and Chancellor joins Yonit and Jonathan for the latest of our Unholy Conversations — on the void populist nationalists have moved into, on the difference between hope and optimism, on the father whose projector slides taught him the kings of Israel before the kings of England, and on the peace deal he watched come apart in 2009.

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