
Perspective: Now on Sale (with Trish Sale)
From Unpacking Chrysalis: The Art of Being Human by Clayton Caswell & Ryan Benoit
May 8, 2026 · 1h 5m · Season 2 · Episode 24
About this episode
Trish Sale discusses the importance of stepping away for personal and team growth.
This week, we’re joined by Trish Sale for a conversation about something many people resist and almost everyone needs: stepping away.Trish reflects on her sabbatical, what time away can reveal about leadership, trust, and identity, and why great teams often grow when someone steps back. We also talk about a memorable summer trip where she expected adventure and found something even better: human connection.Thoughtful, warm, and full of wisdom, this episode is a reminder that sometimes the best way forward starts by stepping away.
People in this episode
Hosts: Clayton Caswell, Ryan Benoit
Guest: Trish Sale
Topics covered
- leadership
- sabbatical
- trust
- identity
- team dynamics
- human connection
Keywords
- sabbatical
- leadership
- trust
- identity
- team growth
- human connection
- adventure
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