Perspective: Now on Sale (with Trish Sale)

Perspective: Now on Sale (with Trish Sale)

From Unpacking Chrysalis: The Art of Being Human by Clayton Caswell & Ryan Benoit

May 8, 2026 · 1h 5m · Season 2 · Episode 24

About this episode

Trish Sale discusses the importance of stepping away for personal and team growth.

This week, we’re joined by Trish Sale for a conversation about something many people resist and almost everyone needs: stepping away.Trish reflects on her sabbatical, what time away can reveal about leadership, trust, and identity, and why great teams often grow when someone steps back. We also talk about a memorable summer trip where she expected adventure and found something even better: human connection.Thoughtful, warm, and full of wisdom, this episode is a reminder that sometimes the best way forward starts by stepping away.

People in this episode

Hosts: Clayton Caswell, Ryan Benoit

Guest: Trish Sale

Topics covered

  • leadership
  • sabbatical
  • trust
  • identity
  • team dynamics
  • human connection

Keywords

  • sabbatical
  • leadership
  • trust
  • identity
  • team growth
  • human connection
  • adventure

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