Ep 90: AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber on the State of AI Today

Ep 90: AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber on the State of AI Today

July 9, 2026 · 51 min · Episode 90

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Dr. Jürgen Schmidhuber discusses the current state of AI, its limitations, and future possibilities.

Dr. Jürgen Schmidhuber, a renowned scientist and AI researcher widely regarded as one of the pioneers in the field, originated key ideas behind today's transformers, LSTMs, and recursive self-improvement through his lab's work. He argues that true AGI remains bottlenecked by physical hardware, that today's AI data center investments are headed for a correction as open-source keeps pace with closed labs, and that the path to general intelligence runs through artificial curiosity and self-generated experimentation rather than internet data. He closes by reconsidering mainstream AI safety arguments and offers a sweeping vision of self-replicating robot societies eventually colonizing the solar system.

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