About this episode

Jacob interviews Buck Shlegeris about the OpenAI and Hugging Face incident and its implications for AI safety.

Jacob sits down with Buck Shlegeris, CEO of Redwood Research, one of the organizations that led the independent investigation into OpenAI/Hugging Face's incident. They dig into the incident itself, Buck's reactions to it, and what he believes it reveals about the state of where we are today.

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