About this episode

Abigail Miller and Micol Ap discuss sustainability, growth, and long-term thinking in the context of digital art and NFTs.

00:20 - Welcome Abigail Miller and Micol 01:07 - Micol’s journey into digital art and NFTs 02:20 - From corporate to crypto art 04:12 - Expectations and burnout 05:26 - Abigail’s background 06:26 - The Fulbright program, Russia and cultural diplomacy 09:32 - Crypto roots and art school 11:07 - Space struggles and growth 14:25 - Echo chamber and reset 18:46 - Financialization vs. experimentation 21:28 - Changes in identity, fame and cultural experience 23:54 - Art Basel Miami and Zero10&...

People in this episode

Guests: Abigail Miller, Micol Ap

Topics covered

• sustainability
• digital art
• NFTs
• cultural diplomacy
• identity
• financialization

Keywords

• sustainability
• digital art
• NFTs
• cultural diplomacy
• identity
• financialization
• Art Basel Miami

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Fulbright program

Places: Russia

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