About this episode

Ben Rhodes joins to discuss a conspiracy regarding U.S.-China relations and shares insights on various topics including drones and celebrity culture.

Former national security adviser and cohost of Pod Save the World Ben Rhodes joins to discuss the conspiracy of an informal agreement between superpowers to stay out of each other’s spheres. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (3:15) Spheres of influence (21:55) Marco Rubio running Venezuela? (29:11) Let’s talk about drones (38:45) Ben Rhodes’s top conspiracies (43:59) Tips for the paranoid (48:58) The death of Lindsey Graham (51:42) Terrorists and AI (54:20) Waymo calls police on teens (55:46) The MSG celebrity “risk” list (1:00:00) Zara’s dangerous pants Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Ben Rhodes Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Additional support: Dae Shik Kim Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People in this episode

Hosts: Jason Concepcion, Tyler Parker

Guest: Ben Rhodes

Topics covered

• U.S.-China relations
• conspiracy theories
• national security
• drones
• celebrity culture
• politics

Keywords

• U.S.-China deal
• Ben Rhodes

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Waymo, Pod Save the World, MSG, The Ringer

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