172 For the Fallen: First Sgt. Karl Kelley - Indiana DNR

172 For the Fallen: First Sgt. Karl Kelley - Indiana DNR

From Warden's Watch by Wayne Saunders / John Nores

May 13, 2026 · 43 min

About this episode

The episode reflects on the tragic loss of First Sgt. Karl Kelley during a training exercise, emphasizing themes of service and brotherhood among law enforcement.

In this National Police Week memorial episode, Wayne sits down with two men who lived through an unimaginable moment when a training exercise turned into a fight for survival. Retired Indiana DNR Lieutenant Colonel Terry Hyndman and First Sgt. Tom Jahn revisit the day they lost their friend and teammate, First Sgt. Karl Kelley, in a swift water incident that still shapes them decades later. It’s a difficult listen at times - but an important one - and a reminder of what service and brotherhood truly mean. “It is not how these officers died that made them heroes; it is how they lived.” ~ National Law Enforcement Memorial, Washington, DC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

People in this episode

Host: Wayne Saunders

Guests: Terry Hyndman, Tom Jahn

Topics covered

  • memorial
  • law enforcement
  • brotherhood
  • survival
  • training exercise
  • service

Keywords

  • Karl Kelley
  • Indiana DNR
  • memorial
  • law enforcement
  • survival
  • brotherhood
  • National Police Week

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Indiana DNR, National Law Enforcement Memorial

Places: Indiana

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