Climate hushing, EVs 🔌 and creating “The Carbon Wave,” with Leah Stokes

Climate hushing, EVs 🔌 and creating “The Carbon Wave,” with Leah Stokes

September 8, 2026 · 51 min · Season 5 · Episode 1

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Ayana Elizabeth Johnson interviews Leah Stokes about climate politics and the benefits of electric vehicles.

Welcome to Season 5 of What If We Get It Right? 💫 While it may seem counterintuitive given the electoral subject matter, Bill McKibben and I are having a blast gabbing with all these wonderful folks who work on climate and politics. Our first guest is Dr. Leah Stokes, professor of environmental politics, energy policy wonk, activist, and writer. During the Biden administration, she also became a DC insider and was integral to the development and passage of the Inflation Reduction Act – THE biggest climate law in history. With Leah, we reflect/debrief on the IRA, bemoan the empirical absurdity of politicians going quiet on climate, and hear her pitch for abandoning the term “carbon footprint” (that evil/brilliant phrase from the fossil fuel industry) and instead embracing a “carbon wave.” The Carbon Wave is also the title of her new book, well worth reading. Leah’s Hot Climate Take 🥵🌎 — It is cheaper and cleaner to drive an electric vehicle than a gas-powered car and it’s gonna work in every single corner of this country— don't believe the fossil fuel industry lies! If you own a car, it should be an electric car. For more from Leah: * her Substack newsletter Notes from the…

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Host: Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Guest: Leah Stokes

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Organizations: Biden administration, Inflation Reduction Act, Inside Climate News

Books & works: The Carbon Wave, Notes from the Electric Era, A Matter of Degrees, Short Circuiting Policy

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