
E170: Ethereum Co-Founder: How Big Tech Will Use AI To Control You (And How Crypto Stops It)
From When Shift Happens Podcast by Kevin Follonier
May 7, 2026 · 1h 13m · Episode 170
About this episode
Joseph Lubin discusses the risks of centralized AI systems and the role of decentralized protocols in countering them.
Joseph Lubin, co-founder of Ethereum and CEO of Consensys, warns that big tech is racing to build centralized AI systems that could control humans and every system on the planet - and explains why decentralized protocols are the only architecture standing in the way. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence. Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol…
People in this episode
Host: Kevin Follonier
Guest: Joseph Lubin
Topics covered
- AI control
- decentralization
- crypto
- Ethereum
- big tech
- financial independence
Keywords
- Ethereum
- AI
- decentralized protocols
- big tech
- crypto
- financial independence
Sponsors
Jupiter, KAST, Trezor, Bitwise Asset Management, Ethena, Sumsub
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Ethereum, Consensys
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