73. Create the conditions - then let the magic happen. In conversation with Ruth Germaine

73. Create the conditions - then let the magic happen. In conversation with Ruth Germaine

From Wild Card - Whose Shoes? by Gill Phillips @WhoseShoes

January 25, 2026 · 58 min

About this episode

Gill Phillips and Ruth Germaine discuss tackling healthcare's challenges through coproduction and the importance of lived experience.

🎙️ This episode was recorded jointly with the So, Who Cares Anyway? podcast, hosted by Ruth Germaine. In this warm, wide-ranging episode, I’m chatting to fellow podcaster and Darzi alumna Ruth Germaine to explore what it really takes to tackle healthcare’s “wicked problems” through coproduction. A powerful invitation to think differently. Drawing on our shared roots in the Darzi Fellowship network, we reflect on why lived experience, curiosity and relationship-building matter far more than ti...

People in this episode

Host: Gill Phillips

Guest: Ruth Germaine

Topics covered

  • healthcare
  • coproduction
  • wicked problems
  • lived experience
  • relationship-building

Keywords

  • healthcare
  • coproduction
  • wicked problems
  • lived experience
  • relationship-building

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: So, Who Cares Anyway?, Darzi Fellowship

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