
73. Create the conditions - then let the magic happen. In conversation with Ruth Germaine
From Wild Card - Whose Shoes? by Gill Phillips @WhoseShoes
January 25, 2026 · 58 min
About this episode
Gill Phillips and Ruth Germaine discuss tackling healthcare's challenges through coproduction and the importance of lived experience.
🎙️ This episode was recorded jointly with the So, Who Cares Anyway? podcast, hosted by Ruth Germaine. In this warm, wide-ranging episode, I’m chatting to fellow podcaster and Darzi alumna Ruth Germaine to explore what it really takes to tackle healthcare’s “wicked problems” through coproduction. A powerful invitation to think differently. Drawing on our shared roots in the Darzi Fellowship network, we reflect on why lived experience, curiosity and relationship-building matter far more than ti...
People in this episode
Host: Gill Phillips
Guest: Ruth Germaine
Topics covered
- healthcare
- coproduction
- wicked problems
- lived experience
- relationship-building
Keywords
- healthcare
- coproduction
- wicked problems
- lived experience
- relationship-building
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: So, Who Cares Anyway?, Darzi Fellowship
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