
Safety Unpacked - Leading Through Change with Amy Morris
From Women in Safety Podcast by Women in Safety Podcast
May 4, 2026 · 32 min · Season 4 · Episode 14
About this episode
Alanna Ball and Amy Morris discuss leadership in uncertain environments and how external ideas can enhance decision-making in health and safety.
In this episode of the Women in Safety podcast, Alanna Ball and Amy Morris explore what leadership looks like when the path ahead is unclear. Using a recent Harvard Business Review Executive masterclass as a starting point, they unpack how ideas from outside the safety profession can help leaders think differently about change, uncertainty, and the systems around them. The HBR piece, How to Lead When You Can’t See the Way , centres on leading through uncertainty when the future feels difficult to read, which becomes a useful lens for this safety conversation. From there, Alanna and Amy bring the discussion back to health and safety, looking at how data, feedback, communication, and adaptive systems can support better decisions in uncertain environments. Rather than relying on rigid habits or traditional safety thinking alone, the episode encourages leaders to stay curious, test assumptions, learn from mistakes, and create stronger connections across teams and functions. Episode Highlights Why leadership in uncertain environments requires more than technical knowledge or fixed plans How ideas from outside the health and safety field can strengthen leadership thinking and…
People in this episode
Host: Alanna Ball
Guest: Amy Morris
Topics covered
- leadership
- change management
- uncertainty
- health and safety
- data-driven decision making
- communication
- innovation
Keywords
- leadership
- uncertainty
- safety
- data
- communication
- innovation
- feedback
- adaptive systems
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Harvard Business Review
Books & works: How to Lead When You Can’t See the Way
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