143: @Pangram is this AI? (ft. Max Spero)

143: @Pangram is this AI? (ft. Max Spero)

July 15, 2026 · 50 min · Episode 143

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The episode discusses the challenges of detecting AI-generated text with Pangram's CEO Max Spero.

Pangram makes the most accurate detector for flagging AI-generated text, but when your startup is the arbiter of what is real and what is not, you sometimes get into hairy situations. For example, the Atlantic and the Wall Street Journal might say that our country has a Pangram problem. But what's the actual problem: that we can detect AI-generated text, or that so much AI slop exists in the first place? Fortunately, Pangram founder and CEO Max Spero happens to be our Actual Real Life Friend™ and we can ask him about it. Find Us Online  Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/wowiftrue.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/wowiftruepod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wowiftrue Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/wowiftrue Website: https://wowiftrue.com/ Email: wowiftruepod@gmail.com About Us  Wow If True was created by Isabel J. Kim and Amanda Silberling . Our editors are Allison Mills and David Newtown. Wow If True is a member of Multitude , a podcast collective, production studio and ad sales provider. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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