The Iran war shows why clean energy is the more secure choice
From Zero: The Climate Race by Bloomberg
May 7, 2026 · 34 min · Episode 182
About this episode
Emily Grubert discusses the ongoing struggle between fossil fuels and clean energy, highlighting the political challenges of the energy transition.
Everywhere you look, you see two types of technology existing side-by-side. One that runs on fossil fuels and one that runs on clean electricity. There’s an ongoing struggle between the two, a tug of war between two very different futures. Some call it the mid-transition, and it comes with costs that make it politically fraught. This week on Zero, Emily Grubert, professor of sustainable energy policy at the University of Notre Dame, tells Akshat Rathi how to navigate the mid-transition, and the better energy system that exists on the other side. Zero is a production of Bloomberg Green. Our producer is Oscar Boyd. Special thanks to Sommer Saadi, Mohsis Andam, Sharon Chen and Laura Millan. Thoughts or suggestions? Email us at zeropod@bloomberg.net . For more coverage of climate change and solutions, visit https://www.bloomberg.com/green . See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
People in this episode
Host: Akshat Rathi
Guest: Emily Grubert
Topics covered
- clean energy
- fossil fuels
- sustainable energy policy
- energy transition
- political implications
- climate change
Keywords
- clean electricity
- energy system
- mid-transition
- sustainable energy
- climate solutions
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: University of Notre Dame, Bloomberg Green
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