Chapter 157: Paul Hawken junks jargon to jolt generations
About this episode
Neil Pasricha interviews Paul Hawken about environmental wisdom and the human experience in the context of climate change.
Paul Hawken is a brilliant thinker, author, activist, and elder who masterfully distills wisdom about our planetary home. I remember hearing Paul's 2009 commencement speech called " You Are Brilliant and The Earth is Hiring " where he said "You are going to have to figure out what it means to be a human being on Earth at a time when every living system is declining and the rate of decline is accelerating." Paul is the author of nine bestselling books including ' Drawdown ', ' Regeneration ', and his latest book ' Carbon, The Book of Life '—an incredible book that came out in 2025 and masterfully distills endless planetary wisdom into simple truths we all need to hear. (I included it in ' The Very Best Books I Read in 2025 .') Grab a seat between us and let's talk about how nature cooperates, why fighting climate change is the wrong metaphor, why the climate crisis is a human crisis, how jargon disconnects, and what decades of activism have taught Paul about being human. This conversation with a sage of sages stuck with me and I think it'll stick with you. Let's flip the page into Chapter 157 now ...
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