Letting Go of "Normal" to Finally Try Again (with Steve Kamb)

Letting Go of "Normal" to Finally Try Again (with Steve Kamb)

June 12, 2026 · 43 min

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Steve Kamb discusses breaking the all-or-nothing mindset and introduces his PACT framework to help people try again without waiting for ideal conditions.

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Host: Mike Vardy

Guest: Steve Kamb

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