Making Space for Grace (PM Talks S3E5)

Making Space for Grace (PM Talks S3E5)

From A Productive Conversation by Mike Vardy

May 13, 2026 · 56 min · Episode 657

About this episode

The episode explores the concept of grace through travel and personal experiences.

This episode is brought to you by Your Clockwise Week—a personalized weekly structure built around your actual life, not an ideal one. If your week feels full but not fitting, you can learn more at mikevardy.com/yourclockwiseweek . Patrick Rhone is back, and so is PM Talks — the monthly series where Patrick and I take our time with one idea and actually see where it goes. This is Season 3, Episode 5, and Patrick has just returned from a trip to Greece with his family — a trip built around anniversary celebrations, Mamma Mia filming locations, and the kind of serendipitous moments that only happen when you're open enough to notice them. It was a perfect setup for the conversation that followed. Because the thread running through everything we talked about — travel, family dynamics, technological change, self-judgment, and the way small kindnesses move through the world — turned out to be the same one: grace. Grace is also one of the principles at the heart of my upcoming book, Productiveness , which made this one feel especially fitting to sit with. If you've been wondering what that book is actually about, this episode gives you a meaningful glimpse. Six Discussion Points: Grace…

People in this episode

Host: Mike Vardy

Guest: Patrick Rhone

Topics covered

  • grace
  • travel
  • family dynamics
  • self-judgment
  • kindness

Keywords

  • grace
  • travel
  • family
  • self-judgment
  • kindness
  • Productiveness
  • serendipity

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Your Clockwise Week

Mentioned in this episode

Products: Your Clockwise Week

Books & works: Productiveness

Places: Greece

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