About this episode

Paul Greenberg discusses the changing relationship between humans and the ocean, focusing on the challenges and opportunities in fishing and aquaculture.

Fish have long been one of the last wild foods, a source of nourishment that connects us to the powerful ecology of the planet's waters. But as journalist and author Paul Greenberg [https://www.paulgreenberg.org/books/four-fish/] chronicles in his award-winning book Four Fish: The Future of the Last Wild Food, our relationship with the sea has dramatically changed over the past century. Once nearly all of the seafood we ate was wild; today, nearly half is farmed and the pressures on both wild and farmed systems are intensifying. In this conversation, Paul doesn't simply lament loss nor offer blind optimism. Instead, he helps us see where wild fisheries and aquaculture have faltered, where they remain strong, and how our choices today will shape the future of seafood and the oceans that feed us. Viewed through the lens of regenerative agriculture, his insights show that healthy waters and healthy land are part of the same story, and that ecological regeneration on farms must be paired with thoughtful stewardship of our rivers, estuaries, and oceans. In this episode, we get into: • What history teaches us about the human-ocean relationship and how it changed as we tamed the sea •…

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