Permaculture and the Case for Hope with Geoff Lawton

Permaculture and the Case for Hope with Geoff Lawton

July 14, 2026 · 51 min · Season 2 · Episode 21

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Geoff Lawton discusses the hopeful potential of permaculture as a solution for environmental restoration and sustainable living.

In this conversation, Geoff Lawton offers us something rare: a genuinely hopeful and rigorously grounded vision of how humanity can become a reparative rather than destructive force on this planet. As one of the world's leading permaculture designers and educators, Geoff has built demonstration sites and trained practitioners across six continents, from the Jordan Valley to the Australian bush. At Zaytuna Farm in New South Wales, he has spent over two decades transforming bare, degraded land into a thriving food forest with 32 bodies of water, hundreds of tree species, and a model for what regenerative living can look like at every scale. In this episode, we dive into: * How permaculture redefines wealth, from money to clean air, clean water, clean food, and community * Why the biggest missing element in modern agriculture is trees * How soil organic matter holds the key to our water crisis * What Zaytuna Farm looks like today after 25 years of regeneration * Why our economy needs to shift from extraction to deposition * How permaculture projects in Jordan, Hungary, and Spain are proving this works at scale * Why Geoff believes humanity may be on the verge of a new kind of…

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Organizations: Zaytuna Farm

Places: Jordan Valley, Australian bush, New South Wales, Jordan, Hungary, Spain

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