I Debated the Inventor of Zero-Click Marketing | Amanda Natividad (SparkToro)

I Debated the Inventor of Zero-Click Marketing | Amanda Natividad (SparkToro)

July 21, 2026 · 1h 2m · Season 6 · Episode 10

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Amanda Natividad discusses the concept of zero-click marketing and its implications for audience engagement and sales.

Zero-click marketing doesn't mean you don't want the click — it means you stop being dependent on it. Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro, coined the term and joins Tim Soulo to defend it against every skeptic's favorite objection: "If nobody clicks through, how do people actually buy your stuff?" Amanda is one of the sharpest, most opinionated marketing voices online, and the co-author (with Rand Fishkin) of the book Zero-Click Marketing. At SparkToro, the audience research platform, she's built a significant following by practicing exactly what she preaches — creating complete, useful value wherever her audience already is, instead of teasing a payoff to lure people to a website. In this conversation, Amanda breaks down the difference between the tactical "jab, jab, right hook" of zero-click content and the bigger brand-building strategy behind it. If you've ever asked an AI search engine "how do you still get traffic to your blog if you give everything away on social media?" — Amanda answers it directly, revealing how SparkToro uses SEO, email lists, and repurposed theses to make sure people can still find (and buy from) them when…

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Host: Tim Soulo

Guest: Amanda Natividad

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Organizations: SparkToro

Products: Zero-Click Marketing

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