How to Actually Solve Burnout at Work (No, It’s Not Self-Care) with Jennifer Moss

How to Actually Solve Burnout at Work (No, It’s Not Self-Care) with Jennifer Moss

From Ambition 2.0 by Girlboss

December 9, 2025 · 49 min · Season 1 · Episode 7

About this episode

In this episode, Amanda Goetz interviews Jennifer Moss about the rising issue of burnout at work and how it is a systems failure rather than a self-care problem.

According to workplace culture expert and author Jennifer Moss, burnout in 2025 is actually worse than it was at the height of the pandemic—with roughly half of the global workforce experiencing symptoms. 🙃 In this episode of Ambition 2.0, host Amanda Goetz sits down with Jennifer to unpack why burnout is still rising, why “hardcore culture” and the 996 movement are actually bad for business (and employee morale), and why self-care rituals like a face mask and a Sunday night bath are band-aid solutions for a systems-level problem. They get into the uncomfortable truth about ageism (both Gen Z and older workers are experiencing bias) and what leaders are getting wrong about “return to office” and productivity. You’ll also hear a much more hopeful take on the future of work: how to design cultures around hope, purpose, and community, what actually moves the needle on wellbeing and performance, and what employees can do when they’re stuck in a bad culture but can’t just quit (because… rent). They also dig into AI, “boreout,” calendar Tetris, and the simple 20-minute rituals that can quietly transform a team. Key Takeaways: Burnout is a systems failure, not a self-care issue Ageism…

People in this episode

Host: Amanda Goetz

Guest: Jennifer Moss

Topics covered

  • burnout
  • workplace culture
  • ageism
  • employee wellbeing
  • productivity
  • AI

Keywords

  • burnout
  • workplace culture
  • self-care
  • ageism
  • employee morale
  • productivity
  • AI
  • wellbeing

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Organizations: Girlboss

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