Recovering from BPD with Mentalization-Based Therapy with Robert Drozek

Recovering from BPD with Mentalization-Based Therapy with Robert Drozek

From Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson by Rick Hanson, Ph.D., Forrest Hanson

April 27, 2026 · 1h 38m

About this episode

Forrest Hanson interviews Robert Drozek about mentalization-based treatment and its importance for individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder.

Have you ever had a friend not text you back, and you’re certain that they’re mad at you? This is often a disruption in the process of mentalization: the ability to recognize that our thoughts and feelings might not be facts. Mentalization is a process we can all struggle with, but it’s particularly important for people who have Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). In this episode, Forrest is joined by psychotherapist and author Robert Drozek to discuss mentalization-based treatment (MBT) and the tools that can help us develop more flexibility and curiosity around our assumptions. Bob outlines the three common modes of mentalizing, explains how childhood experiences shape mentalization, and offers a map for building healthier ways of relating to our thoughts and feelings. About our Guest: Robert Drozak is a clinical social worker, the clinical director of the Mentalization-Based Treatment Clinic at McLean Hospital, and a teaching associate in the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. His new book, Mentalization: Utilizing Reflection to Heal from Borderline Personality Disorder, is the first book about Mentalization-Based Treatment aimed at a general audience. Key…

People in this episode

Hosts: Forrest Hanson, Dr. Rick Hanson

Guest: Robert Drozek

Topics covered

  • mentalization
  • Borderline Personality Disorder
  • mental health treatment
  • childhood experiences
  • psychotherapy
  • mentalization-based treatment

Keywords

  • mentalization
  • BPD
  • mental health
  • psychotherapy
  • childhood
  • treatment
  • self-reflection

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Mentalization-Based Treatment Clinic, Harvard Medical School

Books & works: Mentalization: Utilizing Reflection to Heal from Borderline Personality Disorder

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