Freedom from Performance

About this episode

Lauren Chandler shares her journey of overcoming perfectionism and people-pleasing, exploring its impact on her identity and marriage.

In this episode, I sit down with my lovely wife Lauren to explore her story. She shares about growing up as a “good girl,” always chasing approval, achievement, and the A+. But beneath that pursuit was a deeper struggle: the fear of being weak, broken, or not enough. We talk about how that mindset shaped our marriage, her ministry, and her identity—and the powerful moment when she finally laid it all down at Recovery. This conversation is filled with the kind of grace that sets people free. If you’ve ever struggled with perfectionism, people-pleasing, or performance-driven faith, I believe this episode will offer truth and healing to where you are. In This Episode Childhood roots of perfectionism and people-pleasing How "being good" can become a way to avoid needing God Marriage as the first wake-up call to grace Hitting the idol of achievement in music ministry The surrender chip moment: Letting go of control Embracing powerlessness and understanding grace How fixed mindset stifled creativity and risk-taking Moving toward a growth mindset in songwriting Learning to say “no” and disappoint people with peace Parenting and people-pleasing under the spotlight Shame, criticism, and…

People in this episode

Host: Matt Chandler

Guest: Lauren Chandler

Topics covered

• perfectionism
• people-pleasing
• identity
• grace
• marriage
• surrender
• parenting

Keywords

• performance-driven faith
• approval
• achievement
• growth mindset
• surrender
• shame
• trusting God

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Beth Moore, TVC Recovery Ministry

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