Karen Francis and Penny Herscher: The Chairs' View of a Changing World

Karen Francis and Penny Herscher: The Chairs' View of a Changing World

July 20, 2026 · 59 min · Episode 216

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Karen Francis and Penny Herscher discuss various aspects of governance in a changing world, including AI, geopolitics, and board dynamics.

Karen Francis and Penny Herscher return to the Boardroom Governance Podcast for a joint conversation on AI governance, the creation of The Chairs Circle as a peer forum for board and committee chairs, data center politics, CEO succession, founders versus boards, EVs, China’s rise, chips and geopolitics, and boards in a fractured world.

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Host: Evan Epstein

Guests: Karen Francis, Penny Herscher

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Organizations: The Chairs Circle

Places: China

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