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Charlie Ginzburg discusses his management approach and the realities of scaling a recruitment operation.

What if the corporate leadership playbook has it all wrong? In this episode, we sit down with Charlie Ginzburg, Managing Director at Michael Page overseeing Chicago and LA, to break down the hard truths of scaling a recruitment operation. From his early days as a cigarette salesman to managing a team of 120 people, Charlie shares a masterclass on what it actually takes to build a sustainable, long-term career in the industry. We dive deep into why he openly champions "micromanagement" (hint: it’s not what you think) and why he believes corporate professionals secretly crave structure over unguided freedom. Whether you're an individual contributor wondering if management is the right path, or an agency founder struggling to scale past the 30 employee mark, Charlie’s contrarian perspectives will challenge how you look at corporate growth Key Topics Covered: The Big vs. Small Recruitment Debate: The fallacies of startup agility vs. the massive long-term resource advantages of a PLC. Eating the "Boring Salad": Why true discipline within your niche requires turning down short-term wins for long-term equity. The Case for Micromanagement: How providing intense…

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