Finding human-AI flow: With Shelley Evenson

Finding human-AI flow: With Shelley Evenson

From Catalyst by Launch by NTT DATA

March 3, 2026 · 38 min · Episode 527

About this episode

Shelley Evenson discusses achieving human-AI flow and the importance of organizational ownership in AI transformations.

This week on Catalyst, guest host Jod Kaftan sits down with designer and expert in human-centered AI, Shelley Evenson. Shelley shares her insights on how designers and teams can achieve human-AI flow and how to spot the warning signs that a team is drifting into the realm of AI slop. Jod and Shelley also discuss the need for change management in AI transformations and talk about who in an organization should own an AI transformation? Is it HR? Is it IT? According to Shelley it’s a team endeavour that should start at the very top, with the CEO. Please note that the views expressed may not necessarily be those of NTT DATA Links:   Shelley Evenson  Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience  Learn more about Launch by NTT DATA See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

People in this episode

Host: Jod Kaftan

Guest: Shelley Evenson

Topics covered

  • human-centered AI
  • design
  • AI transformation
  • change management
  • team dynamics

Keywords

  • human-AI flow
  • AI slop
  • change management
  • AI transformation
  • CEO role

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Organizations: NTT DATA

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