Mauricio Di Bartolomeo: Gold vs. Bitcoin Credit, the $40K Bitcoin Debate and Ledn's S&P Bitcoin Bond

Mauricio Di Bartolomeo: Gold vs. Bitcoin Credit, the $40K Bitcoin Debate and Ledn's S&P Bitcoin Bond

July 1, 2026 · 47 min · Season 5 · Episode 522

About this episode

Natalie Brunell interviews Mauricio Di Bartolomeo about Ledn's new gold-backed loans and Bitcoin credit products.

Ledn Co-Founder Mauricio Di Bartolomeo joins Natalie Brunell for a first-time announcement: Tether's tokenized gold (XAUt) is coming to Ledn — the first step toward gold-backed loans later this year. He answers the Bitcoin purists on adding gold, breaks down Ledn's first S&P investment-grade bond backed by Bitcoin loans, and gives a firsthand account of Venezuela after Maduro's capture. Topics we cover: XAUt tokenized gold (real bars in Tether's Swiss vaults) coming to Ledn, with gold-backed loans later this year Inside Ledn's first S&P investment-grade bond backed by Bitcoin loans — and how the ABS market could scale Bitcoin credit toward $1 trillion Mauricio's answer to Bitcoiners who don't like credit products or investing in other assets Natalie's experience taking her first Ledn loan: https://youtu.be/xD3ZoZ2woPk?si=ix0HKnD85hqMTokU Why Ledn caps loans at 50% LTV, and how auto top-off protects borrowers from liquidation His read on "seller exhaustion" and why he expects a summer price come-back Venezuela after Maduro's capture — and the crackdown on its illegal gold mines Follow Mauricio Di Bartolomeo on X https://x.com/cryptonomista and sign up for Ledn at…

People in this episode

Host: Natalie Brunell

Guest: Mauricio Di Bartolomeo

Topics covered

Sponsors

Ledn

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Ledn, Tether

Products: XAUt, S&P investment-grade bond

Books & works: Bitcoin is For Everyone

Places: Venezuela

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