
How Equitable Confronted Its Inertia After 160 Years in Business
From Cold Call by HBR Presents / Brian Kenny
January 6, 2026 · 35 min · Episode 273
About this episode
The episode discusses Equitable's efforts to implement cultural change and improve decision-making under CEO Mark Pearson's leadership.
In 2019, Equitable’s CEO, Mark Pearson, set out to change how the 163-year-old financial services firm gets work done. He wanted the firm to speed up decision-making and empower employees through a flatter hierarchy, agile teams, and more opportunities to lead. Most divisions thrived under the new model. Others clung to old habits. Several years in, the effort sheds light on core questions: What does true cultural change look like? What makes it last? And how do leaders bring skeptics along? Harvard Business School Professor Das Narayandas joins Pearson and COO Jeff Hurd to discuss the case “New WOW at Equitable: A New Way of Working.”
People in this episode
Host: Brian Kenny
Guests: Mark Pearson, Jeff Hurd
Topics covered
- cultural change
- decision-making
- leadership
- organizational structure
- employee empowerment
Keywords
- Equitable
- cultural change
- leadership
- agile teams
- decision-making
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Equitable, Harvard Business School
Books & works: New WOW at Equitable: A New Way of Working
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