
How to Go From “Talking About Students” to Changing School Systems (with Kurtis Hewson)
From De Facto Leaders by Dr. Karen Dudek-Brannan
April 29, 2026 · 59 min · Episode 257
About this episode
The episode discusses how structured collaboration in schools can lead to improved student outcomes.
Most schools say they “collaborate.” They hold team meetings. They talk about students. They review data. But without clear infrastructure, those meetings become updates instead of decision-making engines, and multi-tiered systems of support become an extra burden for educators. In this episode, I interview Kurtis Hewson from Jigsaw Learning to break down their Collaborative Response Team meeting format and explain why effective collaboration requires structure and not just good intentions. From who is in the room to how documents are used before, during, and after the meeting, they share the operational backbone that makes collaboration actually move student outcomes. Kurtis Hewson is an award-winning former administrator and teacher, as well as post-secondary teaching faculty. He is the co-founder of Jigsaw Learning and co-author of Collaborative Response: Three Foundational Components That Transform How We Respond to the Needs of Learners (Corwin, 2022). Kurtis works with districts and schools nationally and internationally to establish Collaborative Response frameworks and interacts with thousands of educators each year. If you care about MTSS, intervention systems, or…
People in this episode
Host: Dr. Karen Dudek-Brannan
Guest: Kurtis Hewson
Topics covered
- collaboration
- school systems
- team meetings
- multi-tiered systems of support
- educational leadership
Keywords
- collaborative response
- educational collaboration
- team meeting framework
- MTSS
- intervention systems
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Jigsaw Learning, Corwin
Books & works: Collaborative Response: Three Foundational Components That Transform How We Respond to the Needs of Learners
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