The $4.2 Million Fight That Taught Her What Forgiveness Really Costs | Suzy Batiz

The $4.2 Million Fight That Taught Her What Forgiveness Really Costs | Suzy Batiz

July 14, 2026 · 52 min

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Suzy Batiz shares her journey of overcoming a spiritual and legal battle that nearly cost her everything, discussing themes of forgiveness and self-discovery.

Suzy Batiz built an empire, lost it twice, rebuilt it a third time — and last year, she almost lost it all again. This time, the fight wasn't legal. It was spiritual. Suzy Batiz is the founder of Poo-Pourri, a bankruptcy-to-billion-dollar entrepreneur, and the creator of a new app called Supernatural, designed to help people uncover their life's purpose through the meaning of their name. Her new podcast, Holy Shit , launches this month. In this episode, Suzy opens up — for only the second time publicly — about the moment a lender tried to force her out of her own company through a forbearance agreement that would have cost her the business, her voice, and her right to fight back. She walks through the 14-hour spiritual reckoning that led her to refuse to sign, the surprising reason the lender backed down, and why she ultimately chose not to sue for the tens of millions she was owed. Along the way, she and Matt dig into childhood trauma, the false stories we tell ourselves about God, the real meaning behind their names, and why she believes the obsession with "self" — self-development, self-healing, self-actualization — might be the very thing keeping people stuck. In this…

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Host: Matt LeBris

Guest: Suzy Batiz

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Organizations: Poo-Pourri, Supernatural

Books & works: Holy Shit

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