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Matt Biilmann discusses the shift from developer experience to agent experience in developer tools.

Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify ( https://www.netlify.com/ ), sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why agent experience (AX) is replacing developer experience in developer tools. He also shares how Netlify went from a bootstrapped two-person team to the deployment platform behind Bolt, Lovable, and ChatGPT-generated sites. Matt is excited by agentic coding and explains the addressable market for Netlify just jumped from 17 million JavaScript developers to 3 billion people. He shares the four pillars of agent experience (access, context, tools, and orchestration), why leading with developer experience beat leading with performance or security in Netlify's early days, and why he believes everyone is about to become at least somewhat of a developer. Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. https://evilmartians.com/ Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and…

People in this episode

Host: Victoria Melnikova

Guest: Matt Biilmann

Topics covered

• agent experience
• developer experience
• Netlify
• coding
• developer tools

Keywords

• agent experience
• developer experience
• Netlify
• coding
• JavaScript developers
• AI
• startups

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Netlify, Evil Martians, Chroma, Bolt, Lovable, ChatGPT

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