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Jason Pack interviews Thomas de Waal about the Armenian election and the geopolitical dynamics in the Caucasus region.

In this episode of Disorder Latest, Jason is joined by Thomas de Waal, journalist, author, and Senior Fellow at Carnegie Europe who has spent decades studying the politics, conflicts, and societies of the Caucasus and wider Eurasian region. His book ‘The Caucasus: An Introduction’, is a must read for anyone looking to understand the region—its ethnic diversity, its ties to Russia, its cults of personality, and its geopolitical importance. Jason and Thomas discuss the June 7 Armenian election—won by pro-EU incumbent Nikol Pashinyan--, the Trump negotiated peace deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and whether Georgia is moving permanently away from Europe and the West. For ad free listening, early release episodes and more bonus content, join our Mega Orderers Club at ⁠disordershow.com/club⁠ Producer: Sam Cluely Subscribe to our Substack - https://natoandtheged.substack.com/ Disorder on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow Show Notes Links: Get Thomas’ book at ⁠https://www.amazon.co.uk/Caucasus-Introduction-Thomas-Waal/dp/0195399773⁠ Listen to our previous episodes with Armen Sarkissian, Armenia’s former president…

People in this episode

Host: Jason Pack

Guest: Thomas de Waal

Topics covered

• Armenian election
• Caucasus politics
• EU relations
• Geopolitical conflicts
• Eurasian region

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Carnegie Europe

Books & works: The Caucasus: An Introduction

Places: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia

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