Dying in Every Moment, Mastering the Unique Art of Stillness, and Illusion, Truth & Love | The Great Victory Ep. 20 (with Natasja Pelgrom) – Podcast #286

Dying in Every Moment, Mastering the Unique Art of Stillness, and Illusion, Truth & Love | The Great Victory Ep. 20 (with Natasja Pelgrom) – Podcast #286

December 14, 2025 · 28 min · Episode 286

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In this episode, Isra García and Natasja Pelgrom explore the concepts of stillness, illusion, truth, and love through a deep and intimate conversation.

“ Stillness. This is the way .” - Isra Garcia -- In this intimate episode of The Great Victory , Isra García sits with Natasja Pelgrom in Bali—overlooking rice fields, the ocean, and the mountains—on the last day of their time together. “ You don’t have to show love. You are love .” Natasja is a Pioneer in Holistic Transformation, an internationally respected visionary, advisor, and thought leader at the intersection of sacred leadership, human flourishing, and transformative entrepreneurship . She embodies key capabilities, and her presence carries three significant qualities: heart, wisdom, and depth. From nervous system to nervous system, breath to breath, she asks Isra three questions that pull the conversation into the rawest territory of his 4-year experimental sabbatical: illusion, love, truth—death in every moment—and the one practice he believes most people truly need right now. “ Die at every moment .” The 3 questions Natasja asks What have you learned about illusion, truth, and love through The Great Victory? Are you willing to speak about dying many times —and what that “death” really means on the path? From all your experiments and practices: what is the one healing…

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Host: Isra García

Guest: Natasja Pelgrom

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