
What Most People Call "Reality" Is Actually Programming
From Divine Design Podcast & Divine Letters by Ann-Peggy Hjerte Divine
June 7, 2026 · 1h 8m · Season 3 · Episode 23
About this episode
Ann-Peggy Divine and Bjørnar Robberstad discuss how unconscious programs influence suffering and the path to spiritual growth and healing.
What if the suffering you carry isn't entirely yours? What if many of the fears, limitations, emotional reactions, and repeating life patterns that shape your reality are driven by unconscious programs running beneath your awareness? In this profound and thought-provoking conversation, Ann-Peggy Divine speaks with psychotherapist and Life Alignment practitioner Bjørnar Robberstad about spiritual growth, healing, ego patterns, ancestral influences, and the hidden programs that quietly govern human behavior. Together they explore why people often repeat the same painful experiences, how childhood survival strategies become lifelong limitations, and why genuine transformation requires more than positive thinking and affirmations. Bjørnar shares his powerful "Breaking Free" process, a method designed to help people identify unconscious patterns, radically accept what is, uncover the beliefs underneath their suffering, and move toward authentic forgiveness and freedom. The conversation also explores: • The hidden architecture behind suffering and self-sabotage • Why unresolved patterns can appear as illness and imbalance • Spiritual sensitivity and the ability to perceive energy • The…
People in this episode
Host: Ann-Peggy Divine
Guest: Bjørnar Robberstad
Topics covered
- spiritual growth
- healing
- unconscious patterns
- ego and soul
- ancestral influences
- forgiveness
Keywords
- reality
- programming
- emotional reactions
- self-sabotage
- spiritual sensitivity
- collective pain
- transformation
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