Did Eliezer Yudkowsky Really Call for VIOLENCE? — Debate with John Alioto

About this episode

Liron Shapira debates John Alioto on whether Eliezer Yudkowsky's rhetoric constitutes a call for violence in the context of AI discourse.

My guest, John Alioto, is an independent AI engineer with a computer science degree from UC Berkeley and 25 years building real-world AI systems at companies like Microsoft and Google. In the wake of an attack on Sam Altman’s property, John Alioto came on the show to argue that Yudkowsky’s words are violent rhetoric that helped create this moment. Since I completely disagree with that characterization, we had a lot of fuel for a passionate debate. For the record, here’s my position on why AI doomers are NOT “calling for violence”: Are we acting like we actually think there’s an urgent extinction risk? Yes. Are we calling for lawless violence? Absolutely not. At least not me, or the leaders of the movement, or anyone I’ve ever personally interacted with. Are we calling for violence as a last resort if a government policy has been established and then egregiously violated? Yes… but that’s just standard for any governance proposal! A proposal for a strictly enforced treaty isn’t a call for violence — it’s a call for doing everything we can to make sure no one breaks the treaty, with zero violence, unless rogue actors decide to break the treaty and bring the consequences on…

People in this episode

Host: Liron Shapira

Guest: John Alioto

Topics covered

• AI discourse
• violence rhetoric
• debate
• Eliezer Yudkowsky
• John Alioto
• AI safety
• governance proposals

Keywords

• Eliezer Yudkowsky
• John Alioto
• AI
• violence
• debate
• Sam Altman
• Microsoft
• Google
• UC Berkeley

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Microsoft, Google, UC Berkeley

Books & works: TIME Article

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