National Coalition of Chiefs' Dale Swampy on Indigenous-Led Pipelines

About this episode

Dale Swampy discusses the shift in Indigenous engagement in Canadian energy projects and the leadership role of First Nations in resource development.

For institutional investors weighing Canadian energy and infrastructure exposure, the framing of Indigenous engagement has fundamentally shifted. The new question isn't whether First Nations will support projects. It's whether they will lead them. In this episode of Drumbeats, hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant speak with Dale Swampy, President of the National Coalition of Chiefs, a body representing eighty-one First Nations chiefs across Canada with a mandate to defeat on-reserve poverty through major resource development. Dale brings two decades of front-line pipeline consultation experience, including his role leading the Aboriginal Equity Partners process for the Northern Gateway pipeline. He breaks down why, contrary to the prevailing media narrative, thirty-one of forty directly affected First Nations communities signed on as supporters of that project, including a thirty-three percent ownership stake unlike anything seen on a Canadian pipeline since. In this conversation, you'll discover: Why Northern Gateway 2.0 will only proceed as a First Nations-led project, and what that means for the capital structure of the next generation of Canadian export infrastructure How the…

People in this episode

Hosts: Mark Magnacca, Rob Brant

Guest: Dale Swampy

Topics covered

• Indigenous engagement
• energy infrastructure
• resource development
• pipeline consultation
• First Nations leadership
• capital structure
• domestic fossil fuel production

Keywords

• Indigenous-led pipelines
• Northern Gateway 2.0
• First Nations support
• resource development
• pipeline consultation
• Indigenous asset acquisitions
• capital structure
• domestic fossil fuel production

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: National Coalition of Chiefs, Aboriginal Equity Partners, Northern Gateway

Places: Canada, Kitimat, Prince Rupert

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