Ep 114: Redesigning Work and Workforce Strategy for the Agentic Era with Paul Rubenstein

About this episode

Paul Rubenstein discusses workforce strategy and AI adoption with Bob Pulver, introducing a framework for CHROs navigating the agentic era.

Paul Rubenstein, Chief Evangelist and Talent Strategist at Visier, brings deep expertise in people analytics and workforce strategy to this wide-ranging conversation with Bob Pulver. He introduces a three-curves framework for CHROs navigating AI: the human-machine efficiency frontier, the ROI curve, and the humanity index. The discussion explores why workforce planning is having a long-overdue resurgence, and how HR can use AI-powered analytics to reach managers proactively rather than waiting for them to come to HR. Bob and Paul also examine the courage gap in AI adoption, the governance tension between restricting data and enabling better AI answers, and the design-plan-operate mindset required to truly transform work. Keywords Paul Rubenstein, Visier, people analytics, workforce planning, CHRO, human-machine efficiency frontier, ROI curve, humanity index, agentic AI, MCP server, intelligent service delivery, governance, data strategy, organizational design, courage gap, talent strategy, future of work Takeaways • CHROs should track three curves: the human-machine efficiency frontier, the ROI curve on AI investments, and a humanity index covering talent density, engagement, and…

People in this episode

Host: Bob Pulver

Guest: Paul Rubenstein

Topics covered

• workforce strategy
• AI adoption
• people analytics
• HR transformation
• organizational design
• talent strategy

Keywords

• human-machine efficiency frontier
• ROI curve
• humanity index
• workforce planning
• courage gap
• data strategy
• future of work

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Visier

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