Ep 127: Restoring Trust by Advancing Human-Positive AI with KVJ

Ep 127: Restoring Trust by Advancing Human-Positive AI with KVJ

July 17, 2026 · 59 min

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Katherine von Jan discusses the importance of human-centric approaches in AI and the ethical implications of technology in the workplace.

Katherine von Jan (KVJ), CEO and Co-founder of Tough Day and a longtime innovation leader across Lotus Development, IBM, Salesforce, and multiple startups, joins Bob to trace a career built on one consistent thread: putting culture and human potential at the center of technology. The conversation covers the perils of workforce surveillance AI, why "human in the loop" has become a nearly meaningless phrase without real definition, and how KVJ's Human Positive Company framework gives organizations a way to evaluate whether their AI and culture choices are actually earning trust. They dig into the ethical review process that killed a risky Salesforce AI project (and the better one that replaced it), how KVJ's earlier startup RadMatter tackled bias against non-Ivy League candidates, and what her team learned about great management while building the AI behind Tough Day. It's a wide-ranging, practitioner-level conversation about responsible innovation, moral leadership, and what it actually takes to build AI people can trust. Keywords: human-centric AI, responsible AI, AI governance, workforce surveillance, human in the loop, AI ethics, Human Positive Company framework, Tough Day…

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