The Bear Market No One Sees | Liz Ann Sonders on the Real Story Indexes Hide

The Bear Market No One Sees | Liz Ann Sonders on the Real Story Indexes Hide

April 15, 2026 · 1h 5m · Season 1 · Episode 438

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Liz Ann Sonders discusses the hidden bear market and the factors reshaping the investing landscape.

Liz Ann Sonders of Schwab joins Excess Returns to break down how war, an oil shock, and shifting market dynamics are reshaping the investing landscape. She explains why the surface-level strength in markets is misleading, what’s really happening beneath the index, and how investors should think about inflation, the Fed, AI, and the evolving role of retail traders. Follow Liz Ann on Twitter https://twitter.com/LizAnnSonders Liz Ann's Research and Commentary https://www.schwab.com/learn/author/liz-ann-sonders Topics Covered How war and oil shocks are impacting markets, inflation, and Fed policy Why the US being a “net energy exporter” doesn’t protect investors The hidden bear market beneath index-level resilience Rotation vs. correction and what it means for portfolios The rise of retail traders and the shift away from “dumb money” Why better or worse data matters more than good or bad data The K-shaped economy and its impact on consumption and markets AI’s three phases and its real impact on jobs and productivity Why this earnings season may be more important than usual The shifting role of the Mag 7 and broader market participation Why the bond market may be the true driver of…

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