Are You Loving Someone or Controlling Them?
About this episode
Tanya and Dr. Sarah Michaud discuss the complexities of codependency and its parallels with addiction.
What does codependency actually look like — and how is it just as powerful as addiction? In this episode, Tanya sits down with Dr. Sarah Michaud, clinical psychologist, author, and 40-year sobriety veteran, to unpack the real roots of codependency. Dr. Sarah brings her trademark wit and warmth to some deep territory: why caregiving can become controlling, how childhood fear drives adult behavior, and why putting down a substance doesn't automatically heal your relationships. Whether you're in recovery, love someone who is, or just keep finding yourself twisted into a pretzel trying to manage everyone else's feelings — this one's for you. Key Talking Points Codependency defined: focusing on others' thoughts, feelings, and behaviors at the expense of your own — driven by fear, not kindness Why caregiving crosses into codependency: when helpfulness is really about managing your own anxiety The co-addict and the addict share the same underlying wound — inability to sit with their own feelings Childhood survival behaviors that don't translate to adult relationships (the angry dad, the dinner table moment) Elizabeth Gilbert's City of Girls insight: "I can drink people like alcohol" —…
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