The National Popular Vote Compact: An End Run Around the Electoral College?

The National Popular Vote Compact: An End Run Around the Electoral College?

July 15, 2026 · 47 min

About this episode

The episode discusses Virginia's participation in the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and the constitutional implications surrounding it.

This spring, Virginia joined eighteen other states and DC in the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement among participating jurisdictions to award their presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote once they collectively hold 270 electoral votes. Virginia's thirteen electoral votes bring the compact to 222, leaving it 48 short of the threshold at which it would take effect. Is participation in the compact a legitimate exercise of state power under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, or does it require congressional consent under the Compact Clause or even a constitutional amendment under Article V? Join us for a discussion of Virginia’s entry, the constitutional arguments on both sides, and what the compact could mean for the future of the Electoral College.Featuring: Chad Ennis, Vice President, Honest Elections Project Michael Williams, Solicitor General, West Virginia [Moderator] Hon. Allen J. Dickerson, Partner, BakerHostetler; Former Chairman, Federal Election Commission

People in this episode

Host: Michael Williams

Guests: Chad Ennis, Hon. Allen J. Dickerson

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Honest Elections Project, BakerHostetler, Federal Election Commission

Places: Virginia, West Virginia, DC

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