To Be Human Is to Be Unfinished: Anxiety, Existential Psychology, and Flourishing / Dan Koch & Kristen Tideman

To Be Human Is to Be Unfinished: Anxiety, Existential Psychology, and Flourishing / Dan Koch & Kristen Tideman

April 15, 2026 · 48 min · Episode 244

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Dan Koch and Kristen Tideman discuss the role of anxiety in human life and how confronting our limits can lead to flourishing.

What if the anxiety you most want to get rid of is the one you most need to listen to? Existential psychologist Dan Koch and marketing strategist Kristen Tideman join Evan Rosa for a conversation about what anxiety is actually for—and what happens when it turns against you. "To be human is to be unfinished. It is to have constantly limits around you, and your choice is to accept them or pretend they're not there." In this episode, they reflect together on the existential roots of anxiety and what it looks like to confront real limits—from an MS diagnosis to faith upheaval to collective crisis. Together they discuss healthy versus unhealthy anxiety and how to tell them apart, the post-WWII origins of existential therapy, boundary situations and “thrownness,” what denial costs us spiritually and psychologically, and how accepting our limits can paradoxically expand our world. The conversation moves between lived experience of multiple sclerosis and philosophical framework about mortality, between Kierkegaard's "dizziness of freedom" and a three-month-old baby in an emergency room—asking not how to eliminate anxiety, but how to let the right kind of anxiety make your world bigger…

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